Too many people waste a bunch of time talking about "God this" or nameless "expert that" and never actually take the time to look at the actual problem. Enough's enough folks. If you want to keep it real and on the level, you're welcome here. If you want . . .

Too many people waste a bunch of time talking about "God this" or nameless "expert that" and never actually take the time to look at the actual problem. Enough's enough folks. If you want to keep it real and on the level, you're welcome here. If you want to spew a bunch of crap about God or what some radio talk show host thinks about something, find another place. It doesn't matter if you're a liberal or conservative as long as you have something useful to add to the debate. If you're a moron, go away! Opinions are cool but have something to base them on other than the Bible or the ACLU talking points. Keep in mind we don't live in anyone's perfect world and never will. It's not attainable. So if you're looking for dreamy visions of a perfect world you're in the wrong place Jack. Here is where the ugly reality lives. Yes the system is screwed up and it is in fact up to us to fix it because if we don't they won't. Cynics and curmudgeons are always welcome here.